Posts by Sea Breeze

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

@Cofty

It looks like to me this guy is an extremist evolutionist and got his feathers ruffled when science didn't turn out the way he demanded. Author Jonathan Wells explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAY8p9ZfEFs&t=220s

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

The scientists at ENCODE are characterized as "prominent" by New Scientist.

Here's how Dan Graur came to the conclusion that ENCODE was wrong according to New Scientist:

"After 20 years of biologists arguing that most of the human genome must have some kind of function, the study calculated that in fact the vast majority of our DNA has to be useless. It came to this conclusion by calculating that, because of the way evolution works, we’d each have to have a million children, and almost all of them would need to die, if most of our DNA had a purpose.

But we each have just a few children on average, and our genetic health is mostly fine. The study therefore concludes that most of our DNA really must be junk – a suggestion that contradicts controversial claims to the contrary from a group of prominent genomics researchers in 2012".

So in other words, he just ran the numbers and the numbers do not support evolution. So he attacked the scientists instead of the theory of evolution.

At Graur's personal website here, he shows a picture of his baby grandaughter giving ENCODE the finger. Really? This loose cannon is who evolutionists are quoting?

Evolution News states:

"I realize, since this guy is a flaming left-winger, as a glance at his Twitter feed will confirm (the profile photo shows an upside-down American flag). But read what he says about Junk DNA, quoted by Jonathan Wells in his new book:

In 2013, biologist Dan Graur criticized the “evolution-free gospel of ENCODE” and accused its researchers of “playing fast and loose with the term ‘function,’ by divorcing genomic analysis from its evolutionary context.”81 In a lecture at the University of Houston, Graur argued that “if the human genome is indeed devoid of junk DNA as implied by the ENCODE project, then a long, undirected evolutionary process cannot explain the human genome.” In other words: “If ENCODE is right, then evolution is wrong.” But for Graur, evolution can’t be wrong. His solution to the problem? “Kill ENCODE.”82

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

@Cofty

How would you respond to evolutionary biologist Dan Graur who stated:

“For 80 percent of the human genome to be functional, each couple in the world would have to beget on average 15 children and all but two would have to die or fail to reproduce,” he wrote. “If we use the upper bound for the deleterious mutation rate (2 × 10−8 mutations per nucleotide per generation), then … the number of children that each couple would have to have to maintain a constant population size would exceed the number of stars in the visible universe by ten orders of magnitude.”

In 2012, the Encyclopedia of DNA Elements (ENCODE) announced that 80 percent of the genome had a biochemical function.

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

Cofty,

I know you are a strict evolutionist. But, the scope of this lecture goes far beyond biological evolution.

Physicist John Wheeler, who is on par with Albert Einstein famously said:

"Everything is particles, everything is fields, everything is Information"

This lecture is all about science. It gives us a glimpse into the very mind of God, since that is where all this information originated from. It is mind-boggling.

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

At a recent XJW conference, software engineer Fred Williams spoke on the subject of Information that is found in nature. It is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvPVEyf5Cic

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

@ truthseeker

So basically we have to die first to experience the benefits of the ransom sacrifice as a new creation or spirit.

If you discount the benefits the bible describes in the here and now, I guess you could say that. But, I wouldn't. I'm having a pretty good time in the Sanctification phase of the process. Learning a lot with eyes wide open.

The exception is if we happen to still be alive when the Lord returns "in the air" to evacuate his family prior to the GT commonly referred to as the rapture. Then, we are changed in the "twinkling of an eye" receiving a new glorified body with major systems upgrades. A body like Jesus had after he was resurrected - "we shall be like him". It is a tangible, physical body capable of thriving in heaven and earth.

But even if we fall asleep in death before then, we will instantly be in the presence of the Lord. "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord". - 2 Cor. 5: 8

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

PP, I get what you are saying since there has never been a culture found in history that didn't have some sort of religion. Also the phrase "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak" is something that we all experience especially as we age.

But the issue here is Judeo-Christian belief found in scripture.

@Cofty,

Consider Psalm 49:15: “But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol, for he will receive me.” In Hebrew thought, Sheol was the place of the dead. In this passage, the Psalmist expresses confidence that God will ransom his “soul” from the place of the dead and receive the Psalmist to himself at some point after death.

Notice how his soul is characterized as "me". The bible uses pronouns for each of the parts of man - spirit, soul and body. Pronouns denote personhood and identity not things.

According to Dr. John Cooper, “There is virtual consensus that the Israelites did believe in some sort of ethereal existence after death in a place called Sheol.”

Consider the case of Saul and the medium of Endor (1 Samuel 28) Notice that Samuel, who had previously died, and whose body had been buried (v. 3), retains his personal identity in the shadowy underworld of Sheol. He still knows who he is, remembers Saul, and can function as the Lord’s prophet.

Jesus provides more clarification.

Mat 10:28 “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

And consider Rev. 6: 9-11

I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain

because of the word of God, and

because of the testimony which they had maintained;

and they cried out with a loud voice, saying,

“How long, O Lord, holy and true,

will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood

on those who dwell on the earth?”

And there was given to each of them a white robe;

and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer,

until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren

who were to be killed even as they had been,

would be completed also.

These dead souls in heaven could think, speak, remember, and be comforted just as we can because they are persons, just like us. I have highlighted the pronouns that characterize these dead souls who are talking as persons, not some sort of life principle or breath as the WT teaches.

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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K

by Sea Breeze in

what were we thinking?

mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .

which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.

Sea Breeze

John 1: 12 that Boogerman posted is particularly powerful in the KJV for JW's . Because there they correctly use the term "sons of god". I would use this version when presenting to JW's

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

A big WT doctrine is that ONLY the 144K are sons of God; whereas the bible says that sonship is available to "as many as receive him". Whom to believe? WT or God?

Boom - that WT deception is obliterated.

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

@Cofty,

spirit, soul, and body (something completely unknown to Israel)

I think that is a pretty big overstatement. Saduucees didn't believe in a resurrection and may have had some ideas that correspond to materialists today. But certainly the Pharisees and Essenes believed man had a soul that departed (not was annihlated) at death.

Gen. 35: 16-19 - Rachel travailed, and she had hard labour. And it came to pass, when she was in hard labour, that the midwife said unto her, Fear not; thou shalt have this son also. And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin. And Rachel died, and was buried.

Clearly, biblical history records that a separation of soul and body happens at death. Of course, this predates Greek thought. So, it cannot be attributed to Plato like the WT tries to make people believe.

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

Just having a new spirit in the here and now is enough to radically change a person's life.

1. You can know (not just hope) that you are saved.

2. The power of sin is broken in a person's life. (You can still sin in the flesh though)

3. A person can interact in a sinful environment and intellectually grasp the superiority of righteousness without having to personally be condemned for such sinful interaction.

4. Sweet fellowship with God in your spirit is beyond description.